So I said that Sailor Moon Eternal part 2 was a movie Iâd watch again. I rewatched it last night 𼰠Love it. Love it so much! Just makes me very very happy đđđ
The entire musical for Hamilton is out there too, canât forget that
Vikings: Valhalla also made Haakon Sigurdsson, a real historical figure and ruler of Norway, from a white man to a black woman. They swapped race and gender to be more diverse
Okay pocahontas was a bad example I canât think of a character whose race was more pivotal to their story. And I strongly reject the idea that changing the race of a white character versus a non white character is the same, which seems to be the implication here
But these tags. These tags are very good
These are good points but I think itâs unlikely people are going to want to stop making period films and TV about famous white historical figures. The thing is, this is already the practice in theater, that POC can play white roles freely, you can have women play Hamlet, whatever, so I donât see why we canât apply it to film too. I think some examples, like Queen Charlotte, do toe the line in that theyâre based on a specific racist pseudohistorical account of Charlotte being black (she wasnât) and risk legitimizing that, but I think Bridgerton could have presented things a little differently and been fine and, honestly, after a certain point itâs kind of on the audience if theyâre taking history lessons from a show based on romance novels, a show that is often gleefully and deliberately anachronistic in other ways.
Where the OP example is stupid is that yeah, obviously, whitewashing POC roles is a different story and not the same thing, and itâs such a reflexive, no-thought-put-in-whatsoever approach to compare them. Especially in the case of stories like Pocahontasâ where her race is kind of important to her character, but also because as long as we still live in a world where white people are preferred for not only white roles but roles in general, itâs denying POC actors an opportunity to whitewash their roles, as well as, in the case of historical figures, whitewashing history.
You canât approach this shit in a vacuum, like itâs purely about abstract principles. You have to take real world power relations into account.
The fact that their post (given the example chosen) is also likely motivated by being upset by the casting in Little Mermaid, where the protagonist is a mythological character is, also đ
Also incredibly ignorant to not recognize that white people playing POC (often in black/brown/yellowface) was the status quo in Hollywood for decades. (And it is still depressingly common in, say, opera.) The movement away from that is actually extremely recent.
Thatâs a helluva lot of words just to say âitâs OK when they do itâ
I mean if youâre not very smart and donât put much thought into these things, I can see why it looks that way!
No yea. I can tell youâre hella smart, specially considering itâs not that deep and could be literally boiled down to double standards and hypocrisy but no no, letâs write a thesis to explain to these small brained mortals why Iâm right and theyâre wrong.
I mean, I already explained why it isnât âhypocrisyâ or a âdouble standardâ right here:
âYou canât approach this shit in a vacuum, like itâs purely about abstract principles. You have to take real-world power differentials into account.â
You havenât come up with anything that engages with that or even demonstrates that you read/understood it. Youâre just repeating the same shit where Iâve already explained why thatâs wrong and is, frankly, demonstrating that you didnât think about this too hard.
If the shoe fits, wear it.
I drawed you a picture with my small brain
âYou canât approach this shit in a vacuum, like itâs purely about abstract principles. You have to take real-world power differentials into account.â
Translation: âItâs okay when we do it. Because reasons.â
Tumblr now trying to hide it behind a âmatureâ label lol
Colourblind casting has been around for ages. Look it up. There are photos from Victorian times of black actors playing Shakespearean roles like King Lear.
The principle is that many characters have no stated race of skin colour in the text. We assume in a predominantly white culture that these characters are white by default, but they donât have to be. Nothing about Ariel or King Lear or Hamlet requires them to be played by a white actor, so actors of any race or skin colour can play them. On the other hand, Othello is textually a black man, and the story of Pocahontas is impossible to separate from her identity as a Native American woman.
Casting a black woman as a prominent white historical figure like Anne Boleyn is pushing it, and probably done to generate attention through controversy, but I donât think having a few poc in the supporting cast of Mary, Queen of Scots is a big deal. The main characters are all white. Youâll be okay.
The Bridgerton thing is also questionable, but a black Queen Charlotte is such a common misconception that Iâm willing to give them the benefit of doubt that the writers really believed it. These are the same people who apparently think regency ladies wore corsets. They did zero research.
The Cleopatra thing sucks because it was presented as a documentary. If they were doing Shakespeareâs Cleopatra, it would be fine because Shakespeareâs plays are highly fictionalized.
Vikings is garbage when it comes to historical accuracy in general. You shouldâve complain about seeing a black woman if youâre okay with Norsemen with undercuts wearing black leather fetish gear.
Itâs a nuanced issue, and if you take the rigid reductive stance that every character should be played by the same race forever, people are going to think youâre ignorant and stupid. Race is not an objective reality. Itâs a completely artificial construct. Would you get this anal about hair colour? Or nationality? Would you care if a white character played by someone of German descent in the original was played by someone of Polish descent in remake? Iâm almost certain you would not.
Actors should be cast based on their ability to play a cheracter as written first and foremost. Their look is of secondary importance at best.
Yeah I ainât reading all that but itâs hilarious you think Iâd take a lesson in anything from the mother fucking retard who jumped to Hitlerâs defense:
